Burde 'Limits' ikke snart få sin egen 'Tab' på BetXpert?
Jeg tillader at citere en artikel fra Australsk site/Daily25.com - men samme situation som beskrevet nedenfor er gældende i Europa og kunne forekomme/forekommer specielt i Danmark);
#Letusbet campaign
Hey Xxxxx,
If you can remember back to the beginning of last year, there was a fair bit of media around corporate bookmakers denying bets on horse racing in Australia. The Australian Wagering Council (this still makes me laugh as they are 100% owned by the British) represents all the UK owned bookmakers working in Australia. They released the following statement back in November of 2013.
Media Statement (Man kunne forestille sig at DOGA med en velbetalt Morten Rønde i spidsen kunne finde på samme bullshit statement, men for fornøjelighedens skyld bringer jeg den her. Bedøm selv);
QTE
"Roughly 3.7 million people in Australia place bets. These range from once-a-year Melbourne Cup punters, to those recreational punters who regularly visit race-tracks and TAB agencies or bet online with licensed and regulated Australian-based bookmakers. A tiny proportion are professional gamblers who have more information than typical punters and bet much more.
Bookmakers will occasionally decline bets placed by professional gamblers. This is because their bets can distort at betting market. In such instances, the odds change, meaning average punters get worse value. Bookmakers protect the interests of average punters by restricting bets from a professional. Roughly one in every 10,000 bets is declined.
"Take a typical horse race, for example. Lots of people may want to stake $10 or $20 on the favourite at odds of, say $5. If a professional gambler comes in and backs the same horse with a $5,000 bet, the odds could be reduced to $3.50. The bookmaker may restrict or decline the bet from the professional punter, so the majority of their customers get a fair deal, rather then get short-changed with worse odds.
"Average Australian punters can place bets on races such as the Melbourne Cup through licensed and regulated Australian-based online bookmakers safe in the knowledge that they are getting better odds and higher pay-outs thath they would from the totes.
"It is worth noting that all bookmakers make theses decisions on fixed-odds betting includgin old-fashioned bookmakers like Tabcorp and Tatts, not just the online bookmakers".
UQNTE
Det minder undertegnede om en Q8 tank-station som afviste at tage imod mere end 500 kroner indsats på Oddset, da tankpasseren mente at andre spil-kunder så ville få tilbudt et mindre odds, hvis oddset faldt!
AWC lies
After a lot of effort from some very determined individuals, the NSW racing board finally stood up for the punter and introduced minimum bet limits on all races held in NSW. This will pave the way for other states in the coming years. It is a forgone conclusion that in 5 years time, Horse racing punters will be able to bet to win a certain amount on all races throughout Australia.
After listening to a great podcast on the issue of bookmaker restrictions, I thought I would see if this "1 in 10,000 bets is declined" comment was just a made up number. I posted a simple question on twitter. Have you ever been limited by a bookmaker or have you always been able to get you bets on? Now I understand the people who follow me might not be the ordinary punters, but they are in no way professional and most are losing punters.
The AWC has always said that bookmaker restrictions affect a tiny percent of punters. To me a tiny percent would be 1-2%. Let's have a look at the tweet and the results.
We had 62 people respond to the question and 50 of them said they had been limited. That is a whopping 80.6%. 8 out of 10 people who try and place a bet are restricted in some way.
That is absolutely staggering, so staggering it needs to be repeated and on its on line.
8 out of 10 punters have been restricted from placing bets
Now the AWC is lobbying our government to stop us from betting with off shore bookmakers, the only bookmakers who will actually let us place the bets we want. It's time to tackle this problem once again but with a view for all sports bets to have a minimum bet limit of $1,000.
From today, whenever a bookmaker restricts you, simple tweet at that bookmaker with the hashtag #letusbet.
It is up to all of us if we want things to change. To be honest, not being able to bet with Australian bookmakers is something I have dealt with ever since I started and I am more than happy betting with off shore bookmakers as I get better odds and am not treated with disdain. If the bookies get what they want (and they probably will as they have a lot of money to lobby these politicians) than the punter who likes to bet and does a bit of research and can make a small profit will be an endangered species.
Like with an hobby, over time if you commit yourself to learning the skills needed, you get better. If I took up painting, and over 5 years became really good at it, I could sell those paintings and make a nice profit. That applies for almost all hobbies. The one hobby where that doesn't apply is punting. If you devote time and effort into learning about betting and get good at it, you will be told you can not do it anymore. Every bookmaker sells the dream of the winning punter in every marketing campaign, but the truth is they are selling a complete lie.
Bookmakers of Australia. #LETUSBET
Jeg tillader at citere en artikel fra Australsk site/Daily25.com - men samme situation som beskrevet nedenfor er gældende i Europa og kunne forekomme/forekommer specielt i Danmark);
#Letusbet campaign
Hey Xxxxx,
If you can remember back to the beginning of last year, there was a fair bit of media around corporate bookmakers denying bets on horse racing in Australia. The Australian Wagering Council (this still makes me laugh as they are 100% owned by the British) represents all the UK owned bookmakers working in Australia. They released the following statement back in November of 2013.
Media Statement (Man kunne forestille sig at DOGA med en velbetalt Morten Rønde i spidsen kunne finde på samme bullshit statement, men for fornøjelighedens skyld bringer jeg den her. Bedøm selv);
QTE
"Roughly 3.7 million people in Australia place bets. These range from once-a-year Melbourne Cup punters, to those recreational punters who regularly visit race-tracks and TAB agencies or bet online with licensed and regulated Australian-based bookmakers. A tiny proportion are professional gamblers who have more information than typical punters and bet much more.
Bookmakers will occasionally decline bets placed by professional gamblers. This is because their bets can distort at betting market. In such instances, the odds change, meaning average punters get worse value. Bookmakers protect the interests of average punters by restricting bets from a professional. Roughly one in every 10,000 bets is declined.
"Take a typical horse race, for example. Lots of people may want to stake $10 or $20 on the favourite at odds of, say $5. If a professional gambler comes in and backs the same horse with a $5,000 bet, the odds could be reduced to $3.50. The bookmaker may restrict or decline the bet from the professional punter, so the majority of their customers get a fair deal, rather then get short-changed with worse odds.
"Average Australian punters can place bets on races such as the Melbourne Cup through licensed and regulated Australian-based online bookmakers safe in the knowledge that they are getting better odds and higher pay-outs thath they would from the totes.
"It is worth noting that all bookmakers make theses decisions on fixed-odds betting includgin old-fashioned bookmakers like Tabcorp and Tatts, not just the online bookmakers".
UQNTE
Det minder undertegnede om en Q8 tank-station som afviste at tage imod mere end 500 kroner indsats på Oddset, da tankpasseren mente at andre spil-kunder så ville få tilbudt et mindre odds, hvis oddset faldt!
AWC lies
After a lot of effort from some very determined individuals, the NSW racing board finally stood up for the punter and introduced minimum bet limits on all races held in NSW. This will pave the way for other states in the coming years. It is a forgone conclusion that in 5 years time, Horse racing punters will be able to bet to win a certain amount on all races throughout Australia.
After listening to a great podcast on the issue of bookmaker restrictions, I thought I would see if this "1 in 10,000 bets is declined" comment was just a made up number. I posted a simple question on twitter. Have you ever been limited by a bookmaker or have you always been able to get you bets on? Now I understand the people who follow me might not be the ordinary punters, but they are in no way professional and most are losing punters.
The AWC has always said that bookmaker restrictions affect a tiny percent of punters. To me a tiny percent would be 1-2%. Let's have a look at the tweet and the results.
We had 62 people respond to the question and 50 of them said they had been limited. That is a whopping 80.6%. 8 out of 10 people who try and place a bet are restricted in some way.
That is absolutely staggering, so staggering it needs to be repeated and on its on line.
8 out of 10 punters have been restricted from placing bets
Now the AWC is lobbying our government to stop us from betting with off shore bookmakers, the only bookmakers who will actually let us place the bets we want. It's time to tackle this problem once again but with a view for all sports bets to have a minimum bet limit of $1,000.
From today, whenever a bookmaker restricts you, simple tweet at that bookmaker with the hashtag #letusbet.
It is up to all of us if we want things to change. To be honest, not being able to bet with Australian bookmakers is something I have dealt with ever since I started and I am more than happy betting with off shore bookmakers as I get better odds and am not treated with disdain. If the bookies get what they want (and they probably will as they have a lot of money to lobby these politicians) than the punter who likes to bet and does a bit of research and can make a small profit will be an endangered species.
Like with an hobby, over time if you commit yourself to learning the skills needed, you get better. If I took up painting, and over 5 years became really good at it, I could sell those paintings and make a nice profit. That applies for almost all hobbies. The one hobby where that doesn't apply is punting. If you devote time and effort into learning about betting and get good at it, you will be told you can not do it anymore. Every bookmaker sells the dream of the winning punter in every marketing campaign, but the truth is they are selling a complete lie.
Bookmakers of Australia. #LETUSBET